Saturday, January 17, 2009

Respecting those deeply-held religious beliefs

A story out of our sister-paradise of politically-correct tolerance, New Zealand:
An Israeli citizen residing in Kaikoura, New Zealand has informed Ynet Friday that a local pub, the Strawberry Tree, placed a sign outside its door reading, "Israelis not welcome before shelling (in Gaza) stops".

Two other Israeli tourists encountered a similar restriction at a café located in another part of the country.

Kaikoura, located on the east coast of New Zealand's South Island, is a tourist hub known for its dolphin shows.

"The pub's owner has extreme views; in the past he worked as a photojournalist in Gaza, and inside the pub a sign reading 'Free Palestine" has been hanging for some time now," the Israeli citizen, who wished to remain nameless, told Ynet.

"It is alarming the (conflict in Gaza) has resonated to this region and in such a one-sided way."

The Israeli continued to say that "the owner expressed his aversion to the supposed racism on Israel's part – but he himself is acting in a racist manner when he screens his patrons according to their nationality."

Yes, but those rules about not acting out our aggressive, hostile impulses against The Other are only meant to control us conservative untermenschen - liberals are part of the Higher Dispensation, and they have a license to hate, for the good of mankind, of course. Still, these Israelis didn't have it as bad as some ladies in Invercargill.
The Southland Times reported Friday that two Israeli women, Natalie Bennie and her sister Tamara Shefa, were ordered to leave the Mevlana Café in Invercargill, New Zealand's southernmost city.

According to the report, the pub's owner Mustafa Tekinkaya, a Turkish Muslim, told the women he would not serve anyone from Israel "until it stopped killing innocent babies and women in Gaza."
Let's just think about that for a moment. In New Zealand, a Turk humiliates Israelis. And the Turk is both a Muslim and...a pub owner. A barkeep. A purveyor of alcoholic beverages.

I don't think it's a coincidence that these brave warriors of Allah chose Israeli WOMEN as the targets of their zeal. I'm just surprised they were brave enough to publically confront the women, instead of secretly pissing in their beer behind the counter.


Blogger Priscilla said...

Hi, nothing to do with this post, but here is something I've been reading, and thought you might be interested in this connect-the-dots blog. It may curdle your blood but it does help explain some things that, at times, seem unfathomable.

BTW, Tuesday we are getting together with a group of conservative friends to watch old movies and avoid the non-stop broadcasts of TheOne's coronation. (even the BBC America is broadcasting the spectacle) Heck, we might even indulge in an adult libation!

10:07 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is something deeply wrong with you.

I sense your 'hate' every time you write.

Israel AND Palestine both are terrorists, period. Unfortunately, trying to target Hamas means that those in the ghetto of the Gaza strip--innocent children, innocent civilians--are, literally, stuck in a ditch, while their limbs are blown off.

You need help, Wanda, with your own deep-rooted anger. That is truly evident in your posts.

10:11 am  
Blogger Dr. Mabuse said...

I need no help from amateur psychologists who have never met me. Kindly keep your impertinent "sensings" to youself, or take them off to a blog where they are appreciated, along with your anti-Jew propaganda. And that's what I am sensing.

11:30 am  
Blogger Dr. Mabuse said...

It sounds like great fun, Priscilla! I'm watching old movies myself right now - we've just come to the end of our Charlie Chans, and have a few old cult horror movies to try out next. We watched 'Carnival of Souls' last night, but it was kind of...lame. Maybe 'White Zombie' will be better.

11:34 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From conservative pundit, Pat Buchanan:

"While the United States must support Israel's right to defend her towns and to strike bases from which Israelis are being attacked, Obama should denounce the collective punishment of 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza, by Israel's cutting off their electricity in the dead of winter and denying them the food and medicine many need to survive."


Imagine that??? He supports Israel, yet believes their attack is too harsh.

A devoted CATHOLIC, right winger, like yourself Wanda.

Is he a Jew hater too?

12:43 pm  
Blogger Dr. Mabuse said...

Yes, he is a Jew-hater, and has been for years. Everybody knows that.

5:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buchanan thinks we shouldn't have gone to war with Hitler. He hates Jews and believes Israel's to blame for everything.

Skinheads, Jihadis, and Pat Buchanan . . . Nice company you're hanging out with, Anon.

Ellie M.

6:42 pm  
Blogger Kasia said...

OK, I'm obviously in the Twilight Zone, because someone actually just rhetorically asked whether Pat Buchanan is anti-Semitic.

Now, I don't pretend to have a nuanced understanding of Buchanan's political views. (I also don't pretend to have an especially good understanding of the ins and outs of the Israel/Palestine mess and how Catholic social teaching applies.) But I remember being assured of Buchanan's anti-Semitism back to around 1992 or thereabouts. I'd like to think I was wrong about him, but I think the anonymous poster could have chosen a better example nevertheless...

9:58 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, I bring Pat up because in every other area, Wanda and Pat have the same ideas.

They both hate liberals.
They both hate gays and lesbians.
They are both devout Catholics.
They are both to the right of John Birch.

Oddly, in the area of Israel and Palestine, Wanda calls him a "Jew Hater," yet, in every other 'hate filled' arena, they have the same ideology.


Also interesting that anyone who sees things in shades of gray, instead of black and white, when it comes to Israel and Palestine, is suddenly a "Jew Hater."

Israel is not guiltless, period. Hamas is a terrorist organization. We all know that. But to really sit back and call Israel the victim is laughable. Both sides have the blame.

To go around calling anyone who sees the culpability on both sides of this issue a "Jew Hater" is really hypocritical, especially when this same person takes glee in hating, bashing, spewing venom about liberals the TEC, Gays and Lesbians (that's a biggie for her).

So, it's okay to do all of that, but you dare not say that Israel is wrong on anything, or you are a "Jew Hater."

Just because the Vatican says you should back Israel, no matter what, doesn't mean you leave what's left of your brain cells at the altar of your parish.

Pat and Wanda have much in common concerning 'hate' but they just differ on this one issue.

Wanda, you 'Liberal, TEC Gay Hater' you.

I'm sure you love that moniker, though...

But how about this one, 'You Arab, Muslim Hater'

I'm sure you like that one too.

1:41 am  
Blogger Dr. Mabuse said...

Any thoughts I might have had about deleting the remarks of the shadowy "anon" disappeared with the last blast. I'll leave them there in all their stupidity. A little plain old newspaper reading might fill in some of the holes in her knowledge, such as not knowing Pat Buchanan's background, as well as the latest press release from the Vatican. I'm not into remedial teaching, myself.

7:47 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, so, are you willing to call the Pope a "Jew Hater" Wanda?

Trust me, I read the papers. It's called 'baiting,' dear Wanda.

You have perfected the art, so I have done the same thing with you.

Again, since I am so stupid, does this mean that you think the Pope is a "Jew Hater?"

The Vatican:

"A Vatican statement said it could not condemn every Palestinian strike because Israel's own response had sometimes violated international law."

Wanda? Is the Pope a "Jew Hater" because he's not willing to condemn Palestine, or say that Palestine is wrong?

Your religion has a reputation of being "Jew Haters," and since you are so intelligent and well read, I'm sure you've read up on how many Catholic priests and a Pope, during WWII, basically handed Jews on that 'silver platter' right over to the Nazis.

It seems, using your logic, that the Pope is a 'Jew Hater.'

Actually, I believe if you bothered to read a few more books than tomes delivered by your idol, Chesterton, you might see what a hypocritical, angry fool you really are.

I cannot nor will not call you stupid. You are far from it. Angry, hypocritical,bitter and sad? Yep.

But your posts on silent films are incredible. I love them. Stick to those.

8:59 am  
Blogger Andrea said...

Yep, being ignorant, condescending, and rude will get people to respect your views, Anonymous troll. It works every time. Pinky swear.

2:40 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

--Yep, being ignorant, condescending, and rude will get people to respect your views,--

You must know from personal experience, heh?

It seems to have gotten Wanda lots of respect. I think the condescending, rude term"Jew Hater?"

--Anonymous troll. It works every time. Pinky swear.--

It certainly seems to work with you, since you felt the need to respond, right?


7:23 pm  
Blogger Dr. Mabuse said...

"Trust me, I read the papers. It's called 'baiting,' dear Wanda."

I doubt anyone was deceived into thinking that you were sincere about anything. But thanks for admitting it so openly - it removes any need to respond to you, since you were never interested in what anyone had to say, anyway.

Trolls. Ya can't live with 'em...


Well, that's it, goodnight.

8:29 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

--I doubt anyone was deceived into thinking that you were sincere about anything. But thanks for admitting it so openly - it removes any need to respond to you, since you were never interested in what anyone had to say, anyway.

Trolls. Ya can't live with 'em...--

Poor, sad Wanda.

Called on her hypocrisy!

Have a great evening. I cannot wait for another post on your silent film knowledge.

'Hypocrisy Hater'

8:50 pm  

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