Thursday, June 21, 2007

Where's the outrage? -- I think I left it in the couscous

As a member of the Roman branch of the Vast Conservative Conspiracy™ seeking to destroy the Episcopal Church, when Greg Griffith of StandFirm speaks, naturally I obey. And so, as per his command to link to this story on our blogs, I'm going to join the pile-on about Ann Holmes Redding, the Islamopiscopal priest of the Diocese of Olympia. As everyone knows by now, she thinks she's both a Muslim and a Christian, and the Bishop of Olympia thinks this is all so exciting, in an interfaith possibilities kind of way.

The story is hilarious on its own, of course, but the secondary story that has cropped up is the issue of the Dog That Didn't Bark In The Night. That is, why have the reappraiser blogs completely ignored the whole embarrassing thing? MCJ is also asking where's the outrage?

It's too late to hope that this is going to "pass under the radar", though, all sorts of blogs have picked it up, not exclusively Episcopalian or religion-focussed. Even the great Belmont Club has noticed it, and summarizes the triviality of much of the left-liberal Western approach to religion:
For Redding becoming Muslim seemed simply a matter of tying a scarf around one's head just as the Christian priesthood consisted in donning a clerical collar. Religious choice, in many liberal minds, is an act of fashion. The so-called Muslim Redding seems oblivious to sharia law, whose judges would certainly object to the idea that you can be a Muslim at lunch and Episcopalian at dinner before becoming a Muslim again at breakfast.

But in many parts of the world, religion is not a question of which fashion accessory to wear today. Or of which words of unremembered faith one chooses to mumble in the next few hours. In other parts of the world, religion is a question of identity. It determines where you may go, with whom you may speak. It determines whether you will live or whether you will die. Anyone who doubts this should ask the Jews.

8 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's obvious why the revisionist blogs are ignoring Ms. Redding's semi-conversion to Islam: It clearly demonstrates the catastrophic erosion of the theology of the Episcopal Church in a way that the Left has yet to develop a template for answering. This particularly true given Redding's bishop's enthusiastic response to her apostasy...it can't be dismissed as a rogue priest acting unilaterally and against the will of her superiors.

Jeffersonian

11:47 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Ms. Redding really said:

“I agree with both because I do want to say that Jesus is unique, and for me, Jesus
is my spiritual master,” Redding says. “Muslims say Mohammed is the most perfect.
Well, it depends on who you fall in love with. I fell in love with Jesus a long time ago
and I’m still in love with Jesus but I’d like to think my relationship with Jesus has
matured.”

Yes, such a heretic!! She says Jesus is her spiritual master. I mean there it is in black and white. I certainly read it.

Where is the apostasy? Simply because you get your big panties in a wad over someone else's spiritual journey?

How do her beliefs impact YOUR faith? Is that how little faith you have?

It takes so little to make some of you froth at the mouth for days on end.

On the outset, it sure seems way out, but after reading the whole article, it certainly doesn't seem as if she is an apostate.

But I ask myself this: Does this affect me, personally? No. Does what she believes sway me to believe the same? No.

Dr. Mabuse: You seem to pride yourself on being so intelligent. Certainly you can wrap your head around the fact that your reality may be quite different than someone else's reality.

If that rocks the foundations of your steadfast, orthodox faith, then I'd say it was shaky to begin with, right?

Respectfully,
Ayn

1:42 pm  
Anonymous ellie m said...

What Ms. Redding has adopted is what some have called the "cafeteria" approach to religion: let's have a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, and mmmm, what's that over there? Sure looks good, let's plop that on the plate too... It's the attitude of a religious dilettante, someone who dabbles in "spirituality" but has no real depth of understanding.

So why is Redding's behaviour important? Because she's a priest, an instructor, a high-profile role model. Because she is a metaphor for a church that has lost its core beliefs and its way. She's not the disease. She is a symptom, and one that should not be ignored.

4:14 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, such a heretic!! She says Jesus is her spiritual master. I mean there it is in black and white. I certainly read it.

Where is the apostasy? Simply because you get your big panties in a wad over someone else's spiritual journey?


Jesus might be her "spiritual master," but she does not see Him as He is: the Son of God. That is apostasy, as is denying the crucifixion and resurrection (as Islam does).

Why does it matter? She's a priest, that's why. She is polluting the church. To say it matters not is to say that the man at the other end of the rowboat, drilling holes in the hull is of no matter becuse he is, after all, only puncturing his end of the vessel.

If Ms. Redding wants a spiritual journey, bon voyage. I'll wave a fond farewell as she departs the Christian religion for a burka in Islam.

8:47 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Jesus might be her "spiritual master," but she does not see Him as He is: the Son of God. That is apostasy, as is denying the crucifixion and resurrection (as Islam does)."

Did she say, in the article, that she denies the crucifixion and resurrection? I didn't read that.

If she, indeed, said that during a sermon, or if someone has a link to any speech she has given where she denies the above, please post it.

I appreciate your explanations, and Ellie's as well.

Ayn

9:10 pm  
Anonymous ellie m said...

"Did she say, in the article, that she denies the crucifixion and resurrection?"

No, but Muslims do, most emphatically. And she has chosen to be one.

9:46 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ellie,

I just did some research on her, and I must agree. That is pretty strange.

However, in my quick research it seems that she has stepped down from actually ministering to individuals, or at a parish.

At the same time, I do not think this is the status quo, within the TEC.

On this one, I must say that is troubling. If she steps down to further research Islam, or convert, that is her business, but I agree with you on this one.

Thanks,
Ayn

9:56 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, Ayn.

Jeffersonian

10:12 pm  

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